For the browncoat, I've ordered swatches of ultra suede and should get those next week. Ultra suede looks and feels just like real suede but it's machine washable. It'll be perfect for the browncoat. I'm thinking about offering the strider jerkin in ultra suede also (price is about $150.00). I've also priced real leather suede just in case anyone is interested. Leather suede is gorgeous but it's twice the price. I can make the ultra suede browncoat for about $300.00 (depending on the width of the fabric)or leather suede for $600.00 plus shipping. I think I'll make one for myself : )